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03/03/2010 23:55:11

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BACKTESTING
Backtest all FOREX markets as requested looking for the pattern ABC / pinbar/doji/engulfing reversal
Supply proof – Write atleast one trade

)n every instrument in forex on a 10 min chart
Trade setup time - text on chart + elipses boxes - arrows - trend - divergence - pivots
Trader Entry - Chart marker - + text + rules
Trade Exit - chart marker - rules used


YOUR NEXT TASK
Write down simple - non verbose - trade setup and trade rules
What time you will trade
What instrumnet you will trade
Your position size
Your risk size + technique ( technical stop + static stop+ spread)

Rules for When you should stop trading....
rules for when you do not trade
rules for sitting on hands

You final task
20 trades
All in journal
All using the trade plan

WHAT is teh result - do you need to alter the trade plan or can you go live?

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09/03/2010 00:59:25

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The Immediate Task is articulate on charts:

Trade Setup
Trade Entry
Trade Exits

On charts using text and chart markers

Then post to forum
use a detailed subject
put some info about trends, open
ABC pattern lower high b sell for example
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Example http://www.micro-trends.co.uk/forum/topic375-trade-setup-and-entry-confirmation--late-vs-early.aspx
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09/03/2010 09:53:52

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Write a list of
Trade Setup Conditions
Trade Entry Conditions
Trade Exit

You wont use all of these - on all trades...
maybe a only a few


write different types of and how to calculate
stop
entry
target

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09/03/2010 09:54:35

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Write a list of market conditions
OHL
TRENDS
GANN FANN
DIVERGENCE
ETC

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09/03/2010 10:03:33

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10 Min Charts
find a reversal trade setup if you can: for a morning star, everning star, bearish engulfing, bullish engulfing, pin bar

find the following:

ABC C sell high
ABC C sell lower high
ABC B sell high
ABC B sell lower high

ABC C buy low
ABC C buy higher low
ABC B buy low
ABC B buy higher low

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10/03/2010 04:18:45

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Every Day
Write a practice trade for a chart 10min + 3 min be side of it if possible of one trade
Trade Setup
Trade Entry
Trade Exit

Put in it alos
stop
entry type
target

it must start subject like

GBPUSD 10 Mar ABC C sell at high with trend

inside post details of trade again

Trade setup was ABC C sell at high with trend
wooides was tredngin short
this wa a publlback intraday weekl and intermdetie teend were all down
so therefore this was agood trade setup to have

blah blah

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10/03/2010 04:47:38

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Go back to the basics and attend the the NinjaTrader Training webinars
this was 6 weeks ago...

http://www.ninjatrader.com/webnew/trading_online_events.htm


Introduction
to NinjaTrader
New User Orientation SuperDOM Basics Advanced Trade Management
Level 1
Advanced Trade Management
Level 2
Charting
Level I
Charting
Level II
Chart Trader
Trading
FOREX with NinjaTrader


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10/03/2010 06:50:33

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To finish






Copy and post exaclty as near as poss as this post

http://www.micro-trends.co.uk/forum/topic375-trade-setup-and-entry-confirmation--late-vs-early.aspx

find the same day and do teh same trade







Then

Post charts 10 min and 3 min for thurs and fri

Video help

http://www.micro-trends.co.uk/forum/topic381-how-to-mark-a-trade-on-a-chart.aspx

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14/03/2010 01:51:39

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Trade Set ups
ABC Pattern, Look to buy or sell from B or C
From High or Lows, at support or resistance, Ideally with trend & pin bar reversal pattern
Pullback from a MA with the trend
Trade entry
Use Gannfan placement to show support & resistance & trend line break
Try to enter trade on new 240 min bar or 1 hour or 30 min bar
Wait for Donchian channel upper or lower on 3 min to form before placing trade
Look for Engulfing candle patterns after set up, and morning or evening stars
Close above or below Cyan MA,
Trade with the trend
Enter on a pullback to a MA, with the trend
Look for confirmation on woodies, From extreme & crosses zero, Green in box with + or - trending insidered or green dot following series of opposite colour,
CCI & RSI with trend & above 50 for long (RSI),50 for going short, CCI below zero for short, Above zero for long
Higher time frame charts to confirm candle colour to enter trade,Also trend lines drawn on HTF
Range & Renko charts can help with candle colours and trend line breaks
Range has a regression channel to show the trend
Use 3 min chart to confirm trade entry on 10 min chart this is our Trading time frame chart, wail for 10 min bar to close before placing trade
Support & Resistance levels,
Yearly,Monthly,Weekly,Daily levels, Yesterdays Open High & Low, Fibinachi levels-weekly for example, whole numbers on RHS of Chart,
Write these figures down before trading, as it is too much information to apply to chart, only apply the most important levels
Trade exit
Trendline breaks
Close above or below Cyan MA
Reversal pattern after new C, at new High or Low, look at all indicators for possible confirmation
Engulfing candle Patterns at pin bar reversals
Areas of Support or Resistance - R1,R2,PP,S1,S2

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14/03/2010 19:34:44

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GOOD EFFORT

Trade Set up - pick one not many

Reversal patterns at s/R OHL - ABC on 10min charts







ABC Pattern, Look to buy or sell from B or C




From High or Lows,

ABC does not have to be highs or lows

it can be a higher low or lower high -these can be mich better trades

the open is very important OHL not HL




The high can be the open

the low the open




or the open support or resistance after a new low or high -







at support or resistance, Ideally with trend




& pin bar reversal pattern

Does not have to be pin bar







Pullback from a MA with the trend




pullback to not from

a MA such as blue cyan 10 SMA for example when trying to get in with a move whihc is trending - not range bound- but how do you know that?







Trade Setups

confirmation of the trade setup

Negation of the Trade setup -







Trade entry

Use Gannfan placement to show support & resistance & trend line break

GANN FANN projects support and resistance not TRENDS - IT IS NOT A TREND LINE

Trade setup - and entry - ie




Try to enter trade on new 240 min bar or 1 hour or 30 min bar

this cuts down over trading - but filters out some easy trades




For example new hour - first 10 min bars has 3 canldes of 3mins - you may trade using







Wait for Donchian channel upper or lower on 3 min to form before placing trade

only true if you are looking at C or B break - but not true if you are waiting for a pullback

only true if you a 3 min trader




The 3 min hcart can help but will also get you in on trades that dont exist - use it like a zoom lens







Look for Engulfing candle patterns after set up, and morning or evening stars

Lool for these to confirm a trade setup - not after - these are the trade setups




however one of these candles maybe part of the trade entry -




for pattern trades - which do not wait for confirmation of other indicators




Trade setup has to be confirmed before you can look for trade entry sometimes it is part of the same thing







Close above or below Cyan MA, only true on a reversal move when range bound or on a reversal which will then go with the trend (whihc trend)










Trade with the trend - not always that is trade strategy not a trade entry - you may be better to only choose setups with the trend if you are not good at counter trend reversals




Enter on a pullback to a MA, with the trend - only at times - if you always do that o will loose more than you win - this is only good in some situations and also depends if you are near end of the move ...




Look for confirmation on woodies,







on which timeframes?




From extreme &

not always from extreme - as woodies will chop and show extremes quite oftern

much better a long series of dots followed by an opposite -(plus all other variants and rules)







crosses zero, not always - it may never cross on some charts - it may also be Zero line rejection

but good to do so 0as yo may miss the move - so you look at the 3 min for ealry confirmation - to get in so you are not mid range







Green in box with + or - trending insidered or green dot following

Trade setup not entry - this give you direction - in other words it tells you what you cant do - ir go against it - but it all depends on time series adn bigger picture intermediate trend/ intraday / intraweek




If you wait for this then you wont get in - it is a bonus if there and should tell you if your trader setup is dodgy or not










series of opposite colour, followed by another colour trade setup condition - not entry but can be for both




CCI & RSI with trend & above 50 for long (RSI),50 for going short, -only if you are looking at 3 min trades - but yes its a slow rule to follow, too laggish and not needed for the best trades







CCI below zero for short, Above zero for long on what? 3 Min, renko, range?

+100 to -100 is better




Higher time frame charts to confirm candle colour to enter trade,

Trade setup is HTF







Also trend lines drawn on HTF

Trade setup




Range & Renko charts can help with candle colours and trend line breaks - how?




Range has a regression channel to show the trend - it shows a very shortterm trend based on action







You can zoom in to Use 3 min chart to confirm trade entry on late confirmation versus late




10 min chart this is our Trading time frame chart, TTF

wail for 10 min bar to close before placing trade - trade setup and trade entry and exit

candle close on breaks and patterns




DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS IT IS TOO EARLY

Support & Resistance levels,

Yearly,Monthly,Weekly,Daily levels, Yesterdays Open High & Low, Fibinachi levels-weekly for example, whole numbers on RHS of Chart,




Write these figures down before trading, as it is too much information to apply to chart, only apply the most important levels




Trade exit

Trendline breaks

Close above or below Cyan MA

Reversal pattern any point..not C

after new C, at new High or Low,




look at all indicators for possible confirmation -better to use one method and to monitor its effectiveness - via trade sim, journal and backtesting




Engulfing candle Patterns at pin bar reversals

Areas of Support or Resistance - R1,R2,PP,S1,S2




FIBONACI levels

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14/03/2010 19:46:53

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TRADE SETUP
ABC Reversal Patterns at Support and Resistance on 10Min Chart
Confirmation assisted/filtered with trend- gann fan - woodies - price action - OHL SR - timing
Negation of Trade Setup ( filter)
pinbar followed by opposite
pinbar followed by engulfing
morning evening stars



What are the
Market and Technical conditions which can affect the validitiy/ probability of the Trade
Before trading session
During trade setup
Intermediate, weekly, daily Trends,
S/R levels, Fib Levels, ATR, Timing, Volume, Gann Fann S/R
Chart confluence, indicator confluence,
price action - coloour versus direction

Trade Entries
Trade setup confirmed (how?)
Woodies zero cross
MA
ABC Trend break
parabloic break

CONFIRMATION
late confirmation versus early -
maybe you need to use the 3 min to help get in during a 10 min trade setup

Exit
trend line break
blue cyan on 10min or 3 min

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14/03/2010 19:47:29

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and many others.....

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17/03/2010 10:17:05

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it is better not to do anything than to do something half cobbled together - rather than making time and effort to do it right using all the resources at hand the forum etc



The only proper chart done so far was copied... the second was a good standard the third was terrible...



what went wrong...?

There is, a video and a template to use...

all you need to do is copy and past the text in and edit




SOLUTION

use the forum good examples, video, look at your printed charts...

throw out all printed charts that are substandard...




do not mark up charts unless you are going to do it properely.

do not do anything around trading unless you are going to do it properley.

give up trading now unless you are going to take it seriosuly







as you go make a list of the trade setups, entries, exits, stop, targets, market conditions etc...




ie copy the text for the trade setup, entry, exit into a spreadsheet




what this means is that you will have loads of different trade setups inthat spread sheet on one row side by side

the under neath in a new row

trade entrys

then underenath in a new row

trade exits

so you can use it in the future......

i think this is the only way of keeping it all on track and not veering off into substandard results ever again...

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17/03/2010 10:27:48

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SNIPPETTS

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19/03/2010 12:11:58

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The only trade setups to learn with are the following: ( due to keeping it simple baby steps first)
pinbar at high
pinbar at lower high
pinbar at low
pinbar at higher low

B Buy, sell
C buy, sell

(ABC) - Sell, Buy B or C
Draw all ellipses
Draw box aorund the trade setup on 1 candle the pin bar

Other Trade setups
Ignore alll others for now:
E.G
later you can look at other reversal patterns, engulfing, stars, + trend breaks at ABC,
Ignore trend, ignore all other stuff such as woodies

Trade entry
woodies crosses 0
close, above or below cyan MA
(trend line break ignore)

Trade exit
trend line break
blue cyan close above, below

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19/03/2010 12:18:08

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PRACTICE TASK #1
On a 10Min Chart - Mental exercise to learn the script...
VERBAL DRILL = no chart markings
Task is to practice drill and speak out loud,
to spot and to speak the logic - later to add in more complex variants and conditions
Do not do any other trade setup or conditions...
ABC SYSTEM
Examples
Trade Setup
Pinbar at high
B Sell

Trade Setup
Pinbar at lower high
B Sell
Trade Setup
Pinbar at low
C Buy
Trade Setup
Pinbar at higer low
C Buy
Trade Setup
Pinbar at high
C Sell

Trade Setup
Pinbar at lower high
C Sell
Trade Setup
Pinbar at low
B Buy
Trade Setup
Pinbar at higer low
B Buy
THEN DRILL
the Trade SETUP
Followed by TRADE ENTRY VERBAL DRILL
TRADE ENTRY
WOODIES crosses 0
CLose Above/ Below Blue MA

NOW DRILL ENTRY ORDERS, STOPS, AND TARGETS
VERBAL DRILL
MARKET ORDER ENTERED
STOP ORDER PLACED ABOVE HIGH + 13 TICKS
STOP ORDER PLACED ABOVE LOWER HIGH + 13 TICKS
STOP ORDER BELOW HIGH - 13 TICKS
STOP ORDER BELOW LOWER HIGH - 13 TICKS
TARGET ORDER PLACED AT HIGH - 5 TICKS
TARGET ORDER PLACED AT LOW + 5 TICKS
IGNORE ALL OTHER TARGETS E.G ( R1,R2,S1,S2)

THEN DRILL
TRADE SETUp
TRADE ENTRY + ORDERS
TRADE EXIT
TRADE EXIT
CLOSE ABOVE/BELOW BLUE MA
AND OR
TREND LINE BREAK
NOTE - just whip backwards on the 10min historical data - practice and drill....
When you have exhausted all your data - change to the EURUSD
then any other forex chart....

PRACTICE TASK #2
CHART MARKUP
Actually mark the chart up over 3 months of GPBUSD
Elipses, boxes, chart marke arrows for trade...
TRADE SETUP
TRADE ENTRY
TRADE ORDERS
TRADE EXIT

Do 2 or 3 on histrorical data.... post to forum for the day

PRACTICE TASK #4
Simulated trade
warm up by makring on the chart...or wlaiking through ones already marked
do a trade - good or bad - no matter
Record it in journal
ABC TRADE - C BUY

FUTURE TASKS
THEN WE WILL make it more sophisticated
with trend - pullbacks etc
counter trend
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19/03/2010 12:58:52

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After doing the below - drill this with filtering...
from exampke: only trade with the trend ---perhaps
looking at candle colours and chart confluence....
woodies extremes and trend stats
early versus late confrimation
levels of support and resistance

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22/03/2010 21:04:11

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TRADE POST EXAMPLE/S
SHORT AT HIGH OR LOWER HIGH

Trade Setup= Pin Bar @ lower High, B Sell
Trade Entry= woodies crossed below 0, close below cyan MA
Market Order Short ( or Limit below MA-5ticksl) price 5000
Stop @ High + 13 ticks ( or swing high or above parabolic etc) price 5015
Target @ Open or Low or PP or R1 or R2 or a MA price 4050 + 5 ticks
Trade Exit= Position Closed : Trend Line Break,Close Above Cyan MA (SMA 10) Price 4078
Trade Exit= Stop hit - Price 5015
Trade Exit= Target hit - Price = 4050
Trade Exit= Stop hit - moved in to BE Price = 5000
Trade Exit= Stop hit - moved in above Cyan MA - PRICE = 4085
Trade Exit= Stop hit Trailed Parabolic - Price 4080
PNL = +20Ticks

REVERSE FOR LONG TRADES


FOR JOURNAL ONLY
Note: Counter Trend -with trend (intraday 30min? etc??? which trend?)
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11/05/2010 09:23:46

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#1 Drill -Visual Backtet 20 Trades - looking for lower highs and higher lows
#2 Subscribe to Stocks and commodoties maagazine - www.trader.com
#3 Look in ninjaTrader news FXCM - look at the charts analysis - learn the lingo - learn how to describe what you see

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12/05/2010 06:46:28

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buy the articles on silvain vervoots stops - stop placements

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